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Max
11-03-2009, 08:11 AM
For a few months now i have attempted to attend the public forums on RTW. sadly they are filled with noob bullshit and their admins know naught of multiplayer and its issues. the multiplayer section on those forums is utterly worthless. uninformative shit and pointless elections for king of rtw. Respectable clans have no business there. Thus, Me and Zeke have thought up a plan for a public forum for clans only. For clans, by clans, no noobshit.

If we get the support of our clans, we will begin with
A central area for tournaments, which will offer a collective place for clans to announce and join tournaments.

An informative are with information on every clan, including its website, age and tournament trophies including a timeline of all RTW clans, from founding till disbandment and their great achievements

A registration point for future clanwars, that prevents the breaking of the rules of engagement on either side in the latter by the following method.
1 clanleaders publicly discuss the terms of the war, publicly agree to them and they are registered. the whole community will then be clear on the terms. 2 If one side is accused of breaking the terms, a third party consisting of uninvolved neutral (mature) clanmembers will decide whether its deeds are an infraction to the terms, resulting in sanctions against the perpetrator should they be found guilty.

A system that prevents admins from gaining too much power based on the Trias Politica by Montesquieu. one set of admins makes the forum rules, takes a vote among the forum members, after which the new rule is approved, after which moderators will enforce these rules, and another set of admins observes wether the moderators do their job. Admins and moderators will not be allowed to vote in new law proposals. any staff member found guilty of corruption will be stripped of his powers and returned to member status, and will also not be allowed to vote for a certain amount of time. Any clan demonstrating a lack of maturity (example: Heavens Glory) will be the subject of a vote on whether they will be expelled from the forum for a set amount of time.

If our plan is a success we will continue to introduce new stuff relevant to clans.

Friends, Me and Zeke are convinced that this plan will lead to a more enjoyable online environment for clans, increase sportsmanship between clans and reduce the amount of noob shit we have to wipe from our mind with excessive drugs and alcohol abuse.
If noobs have a public forum, and are not horrifically murdered for it, why shouldnt the great clans?

Steve5513
11-03-2009, 09:56 AM
Great idea man, this sounds awesome. Total War center is a place i stopped going too because of the noobs there so something like this would be great.

Max
11-03-2009, 02:54 PM
If none of the public forums can put up a decent MP section We'll take care of our own business. The admins honestly believe we are equal to clanless. Ofcourse there are ex clanmembers out there who are exceptions and we will make exceptions to the clan only rule concerning skilled long term MP dudes.

DeerHunter
11-03-2009, 07:26 PM
Max sounds like a really good idear but I think it will be hard to do due to lack of activity by alot of the clans on any of the TW games but Goodluck because if you do pull it off we might actually get a forum going which actually support the MP player not like TWC ect :bgismile:

Max
11-03-2009, 07:53 PM
theyre lovely for when u want to download a mod and when you want to insult single player folks, but their MP sectyion sucks and they somehow believe a clanless is equal to a clanmember. thats fucking bullshit and thus we must take measures. if we want a central mp forum without noobness we must make one. this will only have positive influences so i dont see any problems. i already have the support of some members from hell coh hos and gotw, and i intend to make this work.

Eagle
11-03-2009, 08:31 PM
theyre lovely for when u want to download a mod and when you want to insult single player folks, but their MP sectyion sucks and they somehow believe a clanless is equal to a clanmember. thats fucking bullshit and thus we must take measures. if we want a central mp forum without noobness we must make one. this will only have positive influences so i dont see any problems. i already have the support of some members from hell coh hos and gotw, and i intend to make this work.

i agree, enough of twc bullshit

Stranger
11-03-2009, 09:13 PM
Hey Max,

a great plan Max. Best of luck building it.

My regards,
Stranger

Max
11-03-2009, 10:26 PM
I am glad i have your support. Zeke is currently checking if HoS wants to go along, and i've copy pasted this to hell, coh and AoE members who will hopefully post it on their forum and spread the word of the plan.
you can now include OTD to that list. working on the rest of the decent clans.

Max
11-03-2009, 10:35 PM
anyway i have come up with a way to reduce noobness on an even larger scale
if this forum is successfull, we will make guides on how to successfully manage a clan. that way we can help the noobclans to proffesionalize themselves, resulting in a more pleasant lobby.
itl b basic training for ppl like dale so they dont fuck up.
im thinking we should teach them on
1. how to make a functional forum
2. how to maintain a ranking system
3. how to train their noobs.
4. how to improve their status.

RTW is in its midlife crisis. we cant afford not to help a single clan willing to become skilled. ever since i figured out that people quit because they are sick of noobs and due to the fact that they cant get a proper challenge, i've striven towards purging noobness as much as i can. so far i have started training noobs, posted self help articles for noobs on public forums, (zeke was even as good as to post up decent armies tactics and faction counters too) and now i am going to make it easier for clans to communicate with each other, centralize tournaments and help noobclans become proper clans. not only will this positively influence sportsmanship and clan to clan comm, it will also reduce member's xenophobia towards other clans, eliminate noobclans by educating their leaders, who will then positively influence the rest of the clan, maintain information records on clans, maintain a historic record of all important events in RTW history (clans, tournaments, clanwars) and offer neutral mediation from the entire clan community in case of a problem in a clanwar.
i'm particularly proud of my idea to stop admin corruption and bullshit from newer people. (removing addy privileges and disable voting, remove from the forum for a set amount of time until it can behave ect ect ect)

I am confident that we can have a MP forum for all clans, keep clanless noobs out of it, use it for anything relevant to RTW MP, and keep it Bullshit free. unlike SOME OTHER FORUMS....

DeerHunter
11-04-2009, 12:37 AM
Tell me were to sign up :smile: another good move might beto restrict recruits from clans joining the forum until they prove there worth, or else this might turn into TWC again

Ruben
11-04-2009, 02:22 AM
If that forum has proper admins, the ones that talk bullshit will be banned anyways. Unlike TWC.

Max
11-04-2009, 09:41 AM
Tell me were to sign up :smile: another good move might be to restrict recruits from clans joining the forum until they prove there worth, or else this might turn into TWC again

Very good idea. by the way i've specifically reposted this from the private forum to the public forum so zeke can see what we are brainstorming. i assume me n zeke and maybe FTD will get on this project this weekend.

DeerHunter
11-04-2009, 06:52 PM
FTD from Sith ?

JuliusCivilus
11-04-2009, 06:59 PM
Fighting Till Done i guess.

Max
11-04-2009, 07:01 PM
how many FTD's are there...

Max
11-05-2009, 12:34 AM
Good news. Sewer rat tells me Turk likes the idea. CoH is in too.

Eagle
11-07-2009, 11:49 PM
FTD from Sith ?

i asume from sith was FTP,he simply disappeared

Ruben
11-08-2009, 06:38 AM
WWho's FTP?

Eagle
11-08-2009, 07:30 AM
WWho's FTP?

Former Darklord gave me 2 promos lol :smile:

Max
11-08-2009, 08:34 AM
I was THE last Guy To play with ftp. He got pissed over the fact that our opponents spammed german phalanxes. Another man that quit due To noobs.

TheSteelGeneral
11-11-2009, 07:59 AM
FTP - previously FTPraetorian (who shortened his name to FTP as I did mine to TSG due to M2TW's ludicrous name length limit of 20 chars) was an excellent player who tried valiantly and patiently to get my standard of gameplay in BI up to scratch.

He went AWOL over two years ago. I saw him in the old forum from time to time but not online for over 2 1/2 years.

ElderRev
11-11-2009, 08:30 AM
Great idea Max - if all clans joining feel they have fair representation then it could work well. Will take some work in establishing it but will be well worth it. good luck mate

Max
11-12-2009, 11:39 PM
Thx melord.

Romewolfy
11-17-2009, 09:55 AM
WWho's FTP?

was a great player

but went inactive nd never saw his name agen/...sigh

Max
11-18-2009, 06:45 AM
If only the noobs had not spammed german phalanx..